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About
the PLAB exam and before PLAB I |
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What
does PLAB stand for ? |
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Professional
and Linguistic Assessments Board. It is needed to be taken to
secure a job in UK. Paradoxically there is no more linguistic
component to PLAB, with the introduction of IELTS. Funny enough
the "medical English", which has been one of the main
arguments to have the PLAB tests is never tested as the IELTS
that a doctor gives is no different to the one given by someone
who came to UK for a management course !
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How long is the IELTS (International English Language Testing
System) score valid? |
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IELTS
Score is valid for a period of two years from the date of IELTS
results till the date of Exam for part-I .Once you have passed
the part -I you may take the part-II as and when without worrying
about the validity about the IELTS.
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3. |
Who is eligible to take PLAB ? |
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Any
doctor who has completed his MBBS and also passed IELTS is
eligible for taking the PLAB exams. If you haven't finished
your internship (Compulsory House Officer's post) you will
be eligible only for HO jobs for the first year after the
PLAB II..
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Any
plab exemption after DNB / M.D.? if yes, how does the procedure
go on? |
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At
the minute the only way is with BCL, do ask them for more
info. We can help you after they have given exemption by helping
you finding jobs and clinical attachments which they dont
do.
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What
is the rough cost estimate for taking PLAB exam till you get
a job? |
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It is roughly
around 1800 to 2500 sterling pounds.It is subjected to change
due to various factors. |
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Do
I need MCI(Medical council of India)registration and certificate
of good understanding for appearing PLAB? |
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No
you don't need that for PLAB.You need to have GMC registration. |
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you have finished your internship you may apply either for senior
house officer's or house officer's jobs (if the going is bleak!).
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My husband has done homeopathy, can he do the PLAB as well ? |
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PLAB
is only for allopathic doctors. Those doing non-allopathic medicine
don't register with the GMC, and are not employed in the NHS.
Private medicine is practised and if you can sort out the insurance
bits, a reasonable option.
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2. |
I have not finished my internship, can I do the PLAB ? |
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Yes you
may, after PLAB, you cannot do SHO jobs, only HO jobs for a
year.
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3. |
In how many parts is the exam conducted ? |
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The
PLAB exam is conducted in two parts (step -I and Step-II ).
Part I is all over the world, three times a year. Part II is
held around 12-15 times a year only in the UK.
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4. |
What is included in the two steps of the PLAB ? |
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Since
4th July 2000 the pattern for the step I has changed. Negative
marking has been scrapped and the MCQ's (multiple choice questions)
and CPS (clinical problem solving) and picture test have been
replaced by the EMQ's (Extended Matching Questions). More
about it in PLAB I & PLAB II
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5. |
What is the syllabus of the exam ? |
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There
are no pre clinical subjects (no anatomy, physiology, biochemistry
etc), only the clinical subjects for this examination.
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6. |
Where are the exam centres for these parts ? |
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PLAB exam
I can be given in India (Mumbai, Calcutta, Delhi and Chennai).
Pakistan (karachi & Islamabad), Bangladesh (Dhaka), Egypt
(Cairo) Part-II OSCE is only in the UK.
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7. |
In how many attempts can one pass PLAB ? |
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You can
give upto four attempts in each part with certain conditions
for each part(attempts) to be followed.
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8. |
What are the fees for the exam ? |
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The fee
for Part-I is 145 pounds , and the for Part -II is 430 pounds.
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9. |
Is PLAB a "degree" exam ? |
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No
, PLAB is not a degree exam . It is an entrance exams which
allows you or qualifies you to get a job in UK. It is conducted
by GMC which is a regulatory body. Royal colleges are called
professional bodies which are responsible for the post graduate
education.
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10. |
For how many years is the PLAB score valid ? |
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You
are OK to wait for upto 2 years before starting a job in UK,
and once you get a job, you have around 5 years before which
you must get your full registration with GMC.
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11. |
What is the Calman report ? |
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Calman's
report refers to the streamlining of specialists training in
the UK
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12. |
How many times is the exam held in a year ? |
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Part-I
is held around 6 times a year (3 times world over and all 6
times in UK) and part-2 is held around 10-12 times a year, only
in the UK.
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13. |
Over how many days is the exam conducted ? |
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The
exam is conducted in one day itself for part I and one day for
part II. Typically you get a PLAB-part II date only 3 months
after passing the PLAB part I.
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14. |
How many answers do you have to get right for passing ? |
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For
step I 120 right answers out of the 200 questions used to be
the average, however on two occasions scores of 135 have been
needed to pass. The range has been 113 to 135.
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15. |
What post do I work as on passing PLAB ? |
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You
will work as a SHO ( Senior House Officer ) after passing your
PLAB. For the last 2 years, you can also take HO (house officer)
if you so wish as your first job. HO jobs can be for 6 months
or a year. Those who take HO jobs out of desperation will move
on to a better job before 6 mnths.
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16. |
How much do I get paid on passing PLAB ? |
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Salary
scale has been attached elsewhere in the site.
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17. |
How many weeks before the PLAB OSCE exam should I come to UK
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If
you have taken the complete sponsorship from us then you require
to be in UK at least four weeks before the exam for for Part-I
and three weeks before the exam part-II . The entry and departure
dates are mentioned in your contract. These are displayed on
the website as well.
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18. |
What about the lodging boarding in between 2 exams / 2 attempts. |
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If
YB has places in it's houses, you are welcome to stay on a
"loan lodge scheme" until your stay for the second
attempt begins (which is free), however, if we cannot accommodate
you, you will be able to find enough places for around Stg
45 per week in East Ham or where your clinical attachment
is. Getting a clinical attachment is really important especially
if you have failed the exam. That way you are setting up a
job before you pass the exam.
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19. |
How long does it take for one to get a job after passing their
PLAB 2 ? |
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Normally
2-6 mths.
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What
is meant by"Declaration & Undertaking regarding phone
calls" in the contract supplied by Y.B.E.S?
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This
is to be signed by candidate who is taking sponsorship from
us.It is provided with our contract.This is only to prevent
misuse of telephone lines in our houses in UK.According to
this undertaking candidates can receive phone calls from their
family and friends but they can not make outgoing phonecalls
fron our houses.
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are planning to give you real statistics not just impressions,
in the coming months. |
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Foreign currency to be taken in the first visit. |
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You
are allowed to take only 300 pounds as cash and the rest as
TC . Your total allowance is 3000 $ . $500 can be taken as
cash (roughly 300 pounds) the rest have to be as travellers
cheques. Cashing TC's at Llyods bank, East Ham is free. Other
places give that facility free as well.
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| Why
you need to create an account in HSBC... |
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Is
it neccessary that a candidate should have an account with
HSBC to be a sponsored candidate with PLABMASTER.
Also is it neccessary that one has a letter from the manager
from where they maintain their bank account to give an introductory
letter to the HSBC London branch. As opening an account in
India and getting the Manager to give the introductory letter
is becoming difficult day by day. As no doctors will always
be in Eastham (e.g. clinical attachments / jobs out of London).
Can we not have accounts in any other banks (e.g. SBI, ICICI,
Citi bank, etc.)? They have offices in UK. |
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Opening
an account with the HSBC (London) bank is just another facility
we are adding no cost to the candidate. We think moving with
Travellers Cheques and cash in UK is not a clever thing, having
a bank account makes sense.
You have
to see things from the UK bankers perspective first. PLAB
doctor is a visitor to the UK. He/She is unemployed. UK banks
are not interested in opening bank accounts for them. Why
should they? And besides, after 9/11 they have the other hassle
of terrorism and drug money laundering and the govt regulations
and clamping down on this aspect.
We had negotiated with Barclays bank 6 years ago, persuaded
them after months of negotiations and then they opened accounts
for doctors for PLAB. After 9/11 they shut that system.
We have been negotiating with HSBC on and off for a year and
more intensely last few months and they have relented as they
have reasons to be nice to YBES. However
they have found this answer, and specified requirements, intro
letter from banks, YBES intro, and GMC letter stating east
ham address. We now cannot ask them any more can we?
SBI, Bank of Baroda,
Maharashtra bank have all been approached,
however we found all of them to be reluctant to have an open
mind and do anything different from what they have been doing
for all these years. You cannot forget that they have been
employed in a socialist frame of mind and their mind set fixed.
We get promises of help, and we send doctors to one of these
banks and then the doctors are refused help last minute. We
have always painted them a business picture, telling them
how important is to be nice to these doctors, as they are
rich people of tomorrow!
This facility is available to all those doing the 2 week course
or sponsorship and that has got something to do with the fact
that we have to vouch that we know the candidate for more
than 6 months. It is not important what nationality the students
is, we have opened bank accounts for Pakistani, Srilankan,
Phillipino as well as Canadian doctors. All that we have to
insist is that there is an original introduction letter by
the home country HSBC bank manager vouching the registered
home address of the doctor in his home country. Without HSBC
account at home, we are helpless. If you don’t have
a proper introduction letter by the HSBC manager at home,
you can have a bank statement addressed to you at your home
address, that is good enough. |
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How much money is to be taken to UK ? |
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Normally
we advise doctors to take around 1000-1200 pound although you
could take maximum 1800 pounds.
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3. |
How to travel from Heathrow to Eastham ? |
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Travel
by tube from Heathrow, London. Underground (called the "tube"
and not "railway" which refers to British railway,
BR) runs along different "lines" which criss-cross
the whole city, especially the central area. Most of it is
more than 100 feet deep and is served by escalator-stairs.
In parts it is so deep, your ears pop when descending or coming
out! For our purpose of reaching East Ham, you are concerned
with "jubilee" line and "district line".
Heathrow
is served by only one line, and there is only one platform
to both come and go, a circular sort of route. A single fare
to East Ham costs £3.40. To come to East Ham, you need
to change to district line which you could do at either Earls
court or Hammersmith. But Hammersmith is a better option as
you do not have to change platform unlike Earls Court. From
Heathrow airport to Hammersmith is approximately 50 minutes
and From there to East Ham station is around 70 minutes. The
order of stations Before East Ham is Plaistow - UptonPark
- East Ham. Step out of East Ham station and in 10 feets is
"Petchey Car" the cab company. Most distances in
East Ham will be reached within £3.
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How
much would a taxi/cab ride cost from Heathrow airport to Eastham? |
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It would
take around 60 pounds max with luggage of one person. |
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5. |
Which visa does my spouse get ? |
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"joining
spouse". 6 years ago, it used to be called "joining
husband" and one gentleman was refused this visa to join
his wife, "cant see how this visa applies to you, sir"
I guess is what the visa officer told this man! The visa is
now "joining spouse" and is given as soon as you show
the employment letter, a residence confirmation, a bank statement
etc.
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When can I collect the visa from the British high commission,
what are the timings and days of working? |
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Visa
forms are available with the British Embassy , Nariman Point
, Mumbai ( for candidates from other cities you will have a
British Embassy in the neighbouring cities) the timing for collection
is from 8 -11.30 am and Monday to Friday . But during peak season
the office does accept and submission of the visa form earlier
than the said i.e. to be confirmed by making a telephone call
to the office contact number 22813616. ( Sometimes even the
travel agents have these forms available.).
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How long does it take for issuing a visa on completion and submission
of the form ? |
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Candidates
should go to the Visa facilitation Services( VFS),Stadium House,
(Above Kaysons), VeerNariman Road, Churchgate, Mumbai. Tel:56331700.Website:
www.ukinindia.org ( Or at your nearest center in your city )
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Apply with all documents , and the VFS opens at 8.00 A.M., take
a token and await your turn to submit the application, and the
next day you are asked to come and see if the visa is granted
or you have to go for an interview.
Fees: 2900+ 30+300(VFS Charges).payable
in cash. |
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Does my spouse get to work in UK? |
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Yes. Any
job. If she is a doctor, she must pass PLAB before she can work
as one. However she is free to work in a bank or a supermarket
should she so wish.
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Exams : Job Situation |
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Which posts are easy to come by and which are the difficult
ones ? |
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Rule of
thumb, psychiatry, anaesthesiology, orthopaedics, paediatrics,
ophthalmology are easiest. Obst-Gyn, medicine, radiology, are
intermediate and general surgery is the toughest. Having said
that I still don't know many people who have returned without
a job. We always say, so far as our "payable when able"
offer exists, you must assume that jobs are not that difficult
to get!
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How long can I work in UK after passing the PLAB Part 2 exam?
Suppose it takes 6 months to get a job, then will that period
of unemployment be Counted towards the period of my permit to
stay in u.k.? |
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You
could work in the UK for 5 years without any problem. The
5 year "permit free" training begins from the day
you begin
employment, either paid or even unpaid job. "Clinical
attachment" is not a job,hence is free of this 5 year
period.
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What are unpaid jobs ? |
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Honorary
SHO or supernumerary SHO has a contract unlike the clinical
attachee. Hon. SHO can draw blood and do operations, and the
experience is valid for MRCOG, but does not get paid! You also
lose that time on your registration.
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It was told that we get a period of 7 years to stay there in
England once we get a job. But by what means can we extend this
period / how can that be made permanent? |
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Your
first job gives you a visa for a year. Sometimes jobs can
be for 2 years (medical/surgical rotations) or even longer
(psychiatry-4 years) and your visa will be stamped for that
period.
On completion
of 4 years, your fifth year extension often depends on a region's
dean certifying that your progress has been satisfactory and
that you are doing something special (like research or registrar's
job) and that year's extension is simple. Sometimes you may
get a registrars job which requires the visa to be extended
for upto 7 years, and that is done with the deans recommendation.
This is exceptional not the rule.
If you
want to settle permanently in the UK, you need a non training
job, such as a consultant or a staff grade or an associate
specialist. The last two jobs are typically given in a place
where you have worked before and they like you and they have
a need for a permanent person.
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Is it a good idea to return home and apply for jobs from there? |
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After
passing part II you wait in London or elsewhere to get jobs,
doing clinical attachment. I wont really advise you to return
home and apply for jobs from there, that would not be practical.
Often interview calls come as telephone calls. And the interview
may be tomorrow!
Lodging
with in UK typically costs Stg 50 per week.
Staying
on in UK (permanent) is possible if you take a permanent job
such a staff grade or consultant. A registrar would have to
come back in 5 -7 years. May be after the current spate of
sessions we have in Lon i can write more on that aspect.
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Can you tell me whether I can get permit free training visa
by taking locum for a day or two. ? |
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The GMC
will not give you LR2 registration for a job which is less than
3 weeks. If you think you are going to get jobs off and on for
a day or two, It may be a good idea to get an "Honorary
SHO" job with the hospital you are attached to. This way
your registration is in place and you can have short locums
as well
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7. |
I have a query regarding whether or not I need to take up the
PLAB examination. I have passed my MBBS from Bangalore Medical
College. Following that I have done a 2 year diploma course
in Ophthalmology from Kasturba Medical College, then I worked
in Ophthalmology for 1 year in Medical Trust hospital Kerala,
which is a hospital recognised by the National Board, New Delhi.
I want to take up the membership exam in Ophthalmology. Can
I do this straight away? Does the GMC recognise my qualification
to do the membership exam without having to do the PLAB? |
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you can
do the opthal membership without giving the PLAB. Only the concerned
college can confirm that your experience is enough, but i presume
it will be.
If you have the membership (part I and II) of any branch, you
dont need anything else to work, PLAB is exempt.
Having said that, PLAB is not that bad an exam, especially that
the part I is done here in India and the part II has good results
and your expenses are few upfront if you are sponsored.
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Does
my spouse get to work in UK? |
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Yes. Any
job. If she is a doctor, she must pass PLAB before she can work
as one. However she is free to work in a bank or a supermarket
should she so wish.
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Even after a P.G. here, do I still start as an SHO/HO or will
my qualifications be considered for a direct start? |
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SHO is
probably a reasonable expectation. HO if desparate. Reg quite
unlikely.
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The
expenses for studies for a fellowship? is it stipened? |
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You are
paid around £2500 a month after taxes, as you are a hospital
employee.
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Is a U.K. P.G. degree (if i do it out there) acceptable here
in hospitals? |
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Experience
is always accepted. But no red carpet for anyone any degree,
however clever DNB may be.
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of stay in UK: |
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Does becoming a registrar allow us to stay for as long as we
/ the hospital want/s? |
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Registrars
post is a training post and typically not more than 2 years
in a hospital. A specialist registrar post can be for 5 years,
but a year in each hospital. For a permanent job, you have to
be a consultant or a staff-grade doctor or a trust doctor. These
jobs are work-permit based, non-training and can be held for
life.
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How long am I entitled to stay in UK on passing this exam ? |
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Typically
4 years + 1 extension of 1 year.
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Can
a person of any country renew his passport in UK which expires
while in UK? |
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Yes
the person can renew his passport 10days before the date of
expiry in UK. It costs around stg. 20.
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Accommodation in UK |
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Housing in the UK: |
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Most
hospitals have their own houses in the campus or just outside.
Married accommodation is typically houses with 2-3 bedrooms
or some hospitals have flats with 2-3 bedrooms. Single accommodation
is available in most hospitals and you have your own room
but have to share kitchen and toilet/bath with 3 others. In
the good old days, single rooms would be free and still are
in some remote district general hospitals, but more and more
hospitals are charging a small sum (around £100) to
have a room.
Houses in the UK are extremely stereotype and the local council
dictates a lot. You cannot paint the house a colour of your
choice unless you first clear it with the council. Most houses
are gray or brick colour and entire streets look the same,
very easy to get lost! Typically a house will cost you £500
pm + local taxes and heating and electricity which all come
to another £100 per month. Life can be a bit more expensive
in London than outside London.
Houses cost around £80,000 -£100,000
in cheap parts of London (read East Ham) and could go twice
that sum or more in richer parts such as Finchley or Wimbledon.
A same sized house will cost around 70% of this price in other
cities such as Mancheste or Liverpool. Housing in proper central
London is really prohibitively expensive and a flat with 2
bedrooms facing the Thames river will cost more than quarter
million pounds.
Rented houses will have washing machines
and even vacuum cleaners and even cutlery included in the
price, though not dishwashers.
Basically if you are married you will have
to have such an accomodation and that means an expense of
atleast £500-£600 pm. If you think that is a lot,
wait until we tell you about looking after a kid in a nursery
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Weather in UK |
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English weather is very fickle. There have been days when
one can experience warm sunshine in the morning upto 15-18
degrees C which becomes cold to 4 degrees by night made worse
by the "wind chill factor" - blowing winds. It could
rain as well and indeed make your dress plan go awry. To the
extent that they wish for a good day as their greeting. In
India you have taken that for granted!
Broadly,
it is summer between end May and late September of each year.
The temperature is most in June and July and most August.
Each year, some days will be 30C hot and as the houses are
designed to conserve heat rather than losing it (no cross
ventilation), it results in real tormenting time. People spontaneously
jump in the water fountain in Trafalgar square in herds! In
the summer it is light by 4.30 in the morning (even earlier
in Scotland) and will be light until 9-10 pm.
UK
does not have monsoon season like India. April till June may
have showers but they are never so horrible to require to
take a day off. Children have to depend on other excuses to
take a holiday. It may rain in winter as well. By and large
the rains will be less than an hour or two at a time and only
rarely longer Winter is mainly from October until April-May.
Worst in Jan and Feb. In the winter, temperatures hoover between
2 and 10 degrees C. Rains and wind make life miserable. It
is dark even at 7 am and by 5 pm again. Sun may not shine
for days on end and life is really miserable. Hospitals are
always at mediterranean temperatures, around 29-30 degrees
C at all times of the year. Mostly for patients. You could
easily move in corridors in your OT dress and not be cold.
Maternity wings are even hotter. Heating your house is an
expensive business and if one is paying the bill they keep
temperatures upto 23degrees C.
Clear
cloudless skies are a rarity, no wonder astrology did not
develop in the part of the world. In your first days, you
are tempted to use woollen clothings and innerwear, while
within a year or so, you will get used to the weather. A big
overcoat
(woollen) often suffices. A simple way boys use is to wear
2-3 layers of clothings which traps air and keeps them warm.
Girls find this advice less acceptable for obvious cosmetic
reasons. Local teenagers still mini skirts in winter (though
they need to smoke to keep atleast some part of themselves
warm!)
Scotland
is 500- 700 miles north of London and has much more colder
times than south such as London and further south, Southampton.
Manchester is midway and west and has a wetter weather than
most other areas.
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What is the dress code of girls as well as boys ? |
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A formal
suit or a jacket with matching trousers should be ok for boys.
Girls can wear practically anything and still pass the PLAB
and get jobs! By that I mean, traditional dresses such as sarees,
or salwar khameez are fine. Head scarves are fine as well. Men
on the other hand are not expected to be in their traditional
dress of a lehenga or lungi or something on those lines. So
gentlemen, bring out your wedding suits please!
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Can you give the Course details - timings, address, duration?
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On the
course button on the home page. Click
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| About
the schemes offered by YBES |
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When can I register for the scheme / sponsorship ? |
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We
have limited number of seats for sponsorship programme and
registering with as early is a good idea. In all we have 8
houses under our control and we accept 60 students for full
sponsorship.
As soon as you pass the PLAB-part I, send off your application
to the GMC, courier it and make a note of the date it was
received by them. Ask your friends to chase with the GMC about
the allotted date.
Do send your application for sponsorship with the DD to us
in India and your name will be put on the waiting list. Once
you have confirmed your date for the PLAB-OSCE, email us and
send us the admit card and we will confirm your seat and get
your contract in place.
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| Useful
books |
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Books
for the reference for PLAB |
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Part
II is a clinical examination and what is tested are your clinical
skills nad bedside manners. There is no theory check and discussions
is more important than reading any books or what. The course
teaches what we call 5 minute medicine, tuning you to the
demands of the examination. Whilst in India, go through the
McLeods book or Hutchinsons book of clinical medicine and
that will tell you the basics of the examination skills.
Two indian students of ours have written books, both are quite
good. Jyothi Kulkarni is probably the best of the lot.
Una Coales is quite unrealistic, it is
full of Xrays and ECG's and those bits are not relevant at
all, not to the extent suggested.
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| Visa
Related |
| 1. |
Once
you are in UK can one come back and extend Visa from Home country
or have to extend from UK itself,or if your Visa is about to
expire can you come to Home country before that and extend Visa
from Home country itself.In that case do we provide Visa extension
letter? |
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Yes,you
can return to Home country for a short period and extend visa
from itself.But you need to have some reason like clinical attachment
or PLAB exam to come back to UK.In such cases we do provide
Visa extension letter. |
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Can
I apply for two yrs working Visa as I want to stay long in UK
and gather some money through jobs different than hospital? |
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No,It is advisable to take 6 months Visitor's visa and later
on you can renew it when it gets expired. |
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Should
one declare purpose for stay in UK as exam as well as job? |
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It is preferable
to declare purpose for stay as exam. |
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Can
one write MRCP along with PLAB in Visa form for UK? |
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Yes you
can write that in visa form for UK but then you have to show
MRCP things as well. |
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Tips
for a U.K. visa: By
Dr.Leena Reddy |
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- Download
application form from www.ukinindia.com
- Don’t
volunteer information – answer precisely what is asked.
- Never
disclose incorrect information.
- See
that you have around 3-5 coloured passport-sized pictures,
less than 6 months old against a WHITE BACKGROUND or you’ll
be sent away for those. Other colour backgrounds won’t
do.
- Carry
previous passports as well – previous trip to U.K./Europe
makes things easier
- Have
the latest bank statements with you – not more than
two days old, show at least 1.5 lakhs Indian rupees per
person visiting the U.K.
- Have
all original documents with you -
- Passport in original - registration
- IELTS score
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Medical degree -
Plab I mark sheet
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Internship -
Plab -II admit card
Visa fee-approx.
Rs.3, 150/- per person.
Be pleasant – they’re only trying to help –
the new VSF services are professional and customer–caring.
Don’t work yourself up.
The visa will be issued only 24 hrs later – be prepared
to stay in the city if you are a non-resident for at least
2 days.
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